As reported in the Antigo Daily Journal today, apparently Mayor Matousek has resigned as Mayor of Antigo. Tim Kassis will take over the role of Mayor for the time being. Matousek is taking a job in Oregon as a minister. Mayor Matousek’s wife, Chris, has been a “leader” in the process of the building and funding the new Antigo Playground, which is not finished.
You can read the entire article in the Antigo Journal HERE.
********UPDATE 06/26/08********
Sam Hardin has been elected Mayor of Antigo effective immediately. He will serve until the April 2009 election. You can read the full story in the Antigo Daily Journal HERE.
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Voice, won’t run for city council. He’s already said that he won’t because he’s not in any of the wards of his frowning four or he would consider it.
“Stimac blocked us from having a starbucks”??? Are you kidding me? You might want to look into that a little further before you start blaming him for the lack of expensive coffee here.
The odds of us getting a Starbucks is slim to none to begin with and if you truely want to know the details of his offer and why it did not go through, spend the time researching it or better yet, take the time to get to know him and ask him himself. He has no qualms discussing what happened with people…I’ve heard it several times myself and never once was Starbucks mentioned.
And Voice, you have made it apparent that you “know” jack about me and who I talk to. Once again you have erroneously made assumptions based on nothing more than your own agenda. I never said the “city chased out the Vulcon”, only stating that I had heard it from a board member that he was upset about the way it was handled. You OBVIOUSLY do not know ALL the details and all the discussions and all the comments and all the offers that were in play surrounding this. I don’t either but I can say that unless they were there for every meeting, every phone call and every discussion with every party involved, neither does anyone else. Does your copy of the minutes display Volcun’s future business plans? feasibility studies? machinery statistics and prices? How about dialog of phone calls and conversations between the city and Volcun’s CEO/Owner/Management?
Do you honestly think decisions like this are settled in one sitting at one meeting?? There is a huge amount of information that is exchanged before a final decision is made at the board meeting. To think that you know everything there is to know about something like this from simply reading the minutes or watching the meeting on tv is naive.
“no one listens to him anyhow because he complains about something at every meeting. When someone complains that much, they lose all credibility because they can’t stand to hear him talk anymore.”
Might want to take your own comments to heart, Voice.
Wow, all the loons have come out to play! Splendid! With so many requests of information, proof, etc. I will do my best to answer each of the ramblings about my postings. I will do this despite the fact that I am dealing with mostly irrational people that do not deal in facts and won’t believe what I post anyhow regardless of evidence because their minds are already made up.
Let’s start with the king (or queen) of the personal attack, Mr. Jameson. Again, your personal attacks show that you cannot compete in ideas or facts, so you take shots at me. You ask for proof about my Starbucks charge. I spoke with a local businessman who had a franchise agreement with Starbucks and wanted to open up in the old antique store on fifth and Superior. He went as far as to bring in an architect to make sure that all the specs that Starbuck’s required could be met. This deal was contingent on parking being available. Whether STIMAC was aware of this possibility, I do not know. Do not give him the credit of ‘single-handedly taking down Starbuck’s.’ The only thing he can do single handedly is quit the Council when things don’t go his way, then lose three straight elections. STIMAC was made a very fair offer for his property. The minutes from the Sept. 19, 2007 FP&L meeting are as follows…
2. Financial Aspects of Relocation Package for Superior Grinding
Mr. Soumis advised that an agreement could not be reached with Mr. Stimac; therefore, this matter was tabled by the Economic Development Committee.
Upon inquiry, he added that the City’s offer included the purchase of Mr. Stimac’s building for 10% over the appraised value, two acres of land in the industrial park, payment of relocation expenses, and a low interest loan for construction of a new facility. Mr. Stimac did not believe this was an acceptable offer. Mr. Soumis requested this matter be tabled and the committee concurred.
TABLED
Does STIMAC have the right to refuse any offer for his own property, of course. However, his decision, with or without knowledge blocked this business from coming as there would be no parking and the man scrapped the idea. This, being the very property that was rezoned while to industrial from commercial while he was on council. Can you say conflict of interest? For those questioning whether it would have worked or not, (Kim, livehere, Alexis) that is irrelevent, it would have been a new business in Antigo and good for the local economy.
Mr. Jameson, as for my charges against MORSE. I have said it many times, all you have to do is check the public records at the Clerk’s office but as I said before, I am dealing with irrational people who don’t care to check out facts.
Livehere, you have no worries, Kim is correct in that I will not run for council or mayor. I am quite happy with the recently re-elected alderman in my ward, and there are far more qualified people to be Mayor (not including MORSE)
Alexis, you claim “I never said the “city chased out the Vulcon”, only stating that I had heard it from a board member that he was upset about the way it was handled.”
Here are your words…”Oh, and just for the record, I spoke to a city board member the other day who is still upset that the city had the chance to keep Vulcon here but they voted against it. The city voted against it NOT Vulcon turned them down.”
Ok, ‘the city had the chance to keep Vulcan here and voted against it’ sounds like you are charging the city as responsible, hence chasing them out. So, I charge you to produce proof of when the city voted against it. The truth is, as stated before and was also posted in the Antigo Journal, Vulcan did not want to stay in Antigo. The city offered them a loan of over a million dollars to purchase a piece of equipment for them to stay in business. Vulcan declined. The city didn’t have to vote anymore because Vulcan was not interested in staying. Alexis, there was no talk of ‘not liking the way it was handled’ in your post, just a charge against the city and you are dead wrong on your charge. MORSE also insinuated that the city, and more specifically, former Mayor Matousek was responsible which is an outright lie.
And that, folks, is why I have decided to focus my energies on exposing MORSE for what he really is, a liar and a fool. Mr. Jameson, you can attack me all you want. I will expose his personal behavior at every opportunity. You may not care about the personal conduct of your city officials. I do and I believe many others do. When I spoke to him via email during the mayoral election, he told me he would have two masters degrees by October of 2007. If he did complete that work, he is the most educated man in Antigo without a full time job. I wonder why that is. Maybe he should step down from the city and county boards and get a full time job. He might then be able to pay his taxes and the outstanding debt from his mayoral campaign a year ago instead of stiffing a local business.
By the way DF2Y, thanks for the kind words. You sound like a bright kid. Take note from these loons and remember that when they can’t win in logic or ideas, they resort to personal attack. Also, watch where MORSE and his ilk ends up after the next election…out of office!
do u seriously think that starbucks would have went into the old antique store. i surely do not understand why. most have drive thrus and there would be none to be available. like there isnt anyother place to put another coffee shop in this town. like we need it. and just so u know i was not personally attacking u as u say in the above. but i have read quite a few of your blogs and that is all u really do is attack people, doesnt matter what they say u think u r always rite. like i said b 4 if u r so great and all mighty then put some action to your words and prove it. i think u r just full of hot air.
Voice, so you are telling me that you have no proof of Mr. Stimac stopping Starbucks from moving into town. You have supposed hearsay from a “businessman” and that is your proof. An 8 year old can come up with a better story then that. It sounds like you are eating your previous statement. We all know that you are only capable of LIES anyways. I am glad to see that two businesses owned by locals are not in competion with a national company. I know that Mr. Stimac doesn’t agree with many of the silly ideas for downtown put forth in the recent years. As a downtown business owner, that is his right. I know all to well that the stress and set-up troubles of relocating a a machine shop isn’t worth a lousy 10%.
Will you provide me a current(June) invoice of the money Mr. Morse supposedly owes the printing company. Do you have these documents? What are the legal requirements of reporting PAID bills after an election??? I am a man who needs proof to believe. Much like the case of your lies about Mr. Stimac, I am sure you can not provide it. I am sure that the clerk’s office doesn’t have a current(June) invoice in their records, but I will check it out. Thank you for giving me the ammo to prove you wrong. It will be fun
By the way Voice, I believe the one who is trying to cause trouble here is you. You quote a meeting that is over six months old, it’s not new, it’s not like it just happened and it doesn’t even mention starbucks. You just want to bicker with people.
Livehere, I never said Starbuck’s corportate wanted to come here. What i said, and there is a big difference, is that there was a businessman that had a franchise agreement to open a Starbuck’s. However, to use their name and products, there would need to be certain specifications in place which was why he brought in an architect to draw of plans including those specs. Whether you, I, or anyone understands why this man would do this is irrelevent, it would have been his business decision, his risk, and his choice as to decide if he would like to do it in another location or drop the idea entirely.
As for my postings about MORSE, I accept your opinion that you disagree with me. I will, however ask for your definition of attacking. If what I say is true, is it an attack or exposing the truth? Sometimes the truth isn’t pleasant. I have admitted that I do not have a lot of ideas, which is why I will not run for office, there are more qualified people to do that. I am not great and mighty, just someone who cares about this city and those who are making a difference. In the last mayoral election, I had a nice email conversation with MORSE and Mr. Matousek. Upon doing homework, I found that MORSE was not truthful in his campaign. I was not surprised as most politicians are that way. However, watching MORSE repeatedly attack others integrity such as the former Mayor, the City Administrator as well as others in Council meetings, I decided to expose his behavior. I also found through public record that he has an outstanding balance on his campaign finances. He stiffed a local business on bill his campaign ran up while writing himself a check yet he lectures on fiscal responsibility. This is the height of hypocrisy. Finally, his hit piece letter to the editor of the Antigo Daily Journal on former Mayor Matousek was deplorable. Disagreement on policy is fine, but his personal attacks will now be challenged on here. I disagree with EDER and CAHAK on policy but have not said much personally about either one of them. I have given the proof of my statements or given the information of how to read the evidence for yourself. I believe MORSE is corrupt and a liar. The proof is there, some people just don’t want to accept it.
Kim, people asked for proof. I provided it. Six months old or not, what I said was true and the minutes prove it. It cannot mention Starbuck’s because it wasn’t a city matter. It was a local businessman’s attempt to purchase and renovate one of those empty downtown buildings that many crab about. STIMAC was given a fair offer (10% OVER the appraised value plus moving expenses) and he refused. That action nixed a new business from starting and will continue to do so because that building has no access to parking. Don’t be naive and think he doesn’t know what he is doing. He is a businessman. He wanted to bilk the city for his property.
Yes, I do enjoy challenging the malcontents and naysayers on here. Unlike others on this site, I respond to challenges. I am still waiting for Jameson and Alexis to answer some of the challenges I put to them. Neither of them have answered about MORSE’S outstanding campaign debt, stiffing a local business,
Yes, I understand people asked for proof. What I don’t understand is why you brought star bucks up in the first place. It’s not affecting the community RIGHT NOW it was an old subject that you brought up to bash Stimac. You didn’t have anything to gripe about so you brought up an old subject and then proved it was on old with a old meeting.
Oh and by the way directly from the starbucks website:
Does Starbucks franchise?
Starbucks does not franchise operations and has no plans to franchise in the foreseeable future.
In North America, the majority of our stores are Company-operated. As an exception, Starbucks may enter into licensing arrangements with companies who provide access to real estate which would otherwise be unavailable such as airport locations, national grocery chains, major food services corporations, college and university campuses and hospitals.
You are full of it.
“Six months old or not, what I said was true and the minutes prove it. It cannot mention Starbuck’s because it wasn’t a city matter.”
Why was the city offering to buy Stimac’s building if starbucks wanted it for a parking lot? That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense now does it?
Kim, you took the words right out of my mouth!!!
Voice, “chasing” someone out of town and doing everything in your power to make them stay are two VERY different things. Once again, you have tried to make my comments fit your agenda, which I will not allow you to do.
I also find it amusing that out of everything in my post, that is the only thing you had to say.
Furthermore, I am not disputing that the Vulcon denied the the cities offer to finance their piece of equipment. But do you have anything that states that the only reason that Vulcon closed it’s doors here is because of a lack of equipment? Can you even fathom the possibility that there were other issues that factored into their closing and that the financing the city offered was a mute point??
I mean if I have issues with my business and am looking at closing, an offer to finance new equipment is irrelevant. But it sure does make the offering party look better, now doesn’t it.
You like to continually bash on our board members and how they are not “speaking for the taxpayer” like they say. How they are not doing right by you. How they are “liar”s. How they are unwanted and unneeded in their positions. Well have you forgotten that these people are elected? Someone thought they were good enough. In fact, the majority of someones thought so. That’s why they won an election. If they are so bad, how is it that they won their posts and continue to hold them??
You do know that there are ways to oust elected officials when they are not doing right. It would seem that if these people you keep bashing are sooo wrong and sooo out of line that (according to you)some of their activities are criminal(it would be illegal to reimburse yourself for false expenses) that someone would have stepped in to rectify the situation. That has not happened nor do I see it happening. Wonder if that’s because you seem to be the only one to feel that way???
Lastly, you seem to have alot of time to spend watching meetings, reading the minutes, emailing officials during the election and hanging out at our new park. Hell, with my full time and part time job, a family and a home, I barely find the time to read all the new posts here. I would think with all that time, you’d have more constructive things to do than post here. I mean, your sooo passionate about what you talk about why aren’t you out there contributing to the solution, rather than here whining???
voice could use some of that hot air to fuel the wind farms!
Voice is going to build a methane generator to utilize the gas produced by being so full of sh*t.
Voice, did you have to sign a franchise agreement to be that ignorant or did it happen naturally?
For what it is worth, I know of several business people who have looked to purchase the old antique store on the corner of 5th and Superior. No one has purchased to my knowledge for many reasons, one I have heard repeatedly was the lack of parking. Now, that situation cannot be fixed with the buildings staying the way they are so I supposed they were looking at how to rectify that situation and I was told that offers were made to purchase Superior Grinding (Bob Stimac’s building). As stated, he has the right to accept or deny offers; my problem is more with why we have an industrial building located in our downtown to begin with. How he was allowed to do this I do not understand. As for the 10% to relocate his business; Merit Gear would not relocate because it would cost so much to relocate to the industrial park either so I guess we are going to have a lot of problems in our future with our industrial businesses being located in our downtown and in areas very close to such. It is my hope that the employment created/kept by the actions of these two business places is enough to warrant the problems they create.
Apparently I hit a nerve somewhere as all of the kooks are up in arms. Mission accomplished! Alexis, of course MORSE and EDER won their elections, they ran unopposed. Great victories there. However, by your own logic (and there is little in what you say), you prove my point. In the election in which MORSE and EDER won re-election, MORSE was buried in both wards. In fact, MORSE lost every ward. So, it’s obvious that the taxpayers wanted someone of Matousek’s vision overwhelmingly. If this were not the case, MORSE would have won his own ward in which he lost in a landslide. The same goes for EDER who votes with MORSE in almost every case. Both will be gone after the next election. And, Jameson, if you are as knowledgable as you claim with records in the clerk’s office, you would already know that monthly statements of campaigns are not given. You would know that MORSE’S last campaign financial report has been filed and closed. In that last report, a year after the election, he still owed Clermonth printing $800 while reimbursing himself (not illegal as Alexis thinks) $300. Thus, he stiffed a local business for at least a year. Very responsible man we have representing our city! If that would be the case of any of the POSITIVE FIVE, you could bet that all you loons would be screaming and storming the council meetings. But, since he is one of your own, you will let that one slide. DOUBLE STANDARD. Mr. Jameson, save your trip to the clerk’s office. You know what you posted is foolish and you are going to defend the indefensible MORSE no matter what because of your ideology. Now, feel free to continue assaulting me with your 5th grade level insults.
since you complain so much about our town politics y not start thinking of some of the crap that the big guys do. maybe if they led a honest career more would follow in their footsteps.
Who are these big guys? Anyhow, nice statement. If others were honest, then people here in Antigo would be honest? So, MORSE’S deplorable behavior is someone else’s fault?! Great logic!
What Voice no response for me???
Sorry Kim, perhaps franchise was the wrong word…
http://www.starbucks.com/business/foodservice.asp
There ya go! Again, why do I bother, you will deny it anyhow. Why would the city want to put in a parking lot? Stimac would be where his business belongs, in the industrial district and a new business would open. People passing through town would have another reason to stop here. It’s called downtown revitalization.
It’s inconcievable to move a machine shop for 10% of your building equity. Do you have the slightest idea of the leveling and calibration that goes into installing one CNC machine? How about an entire machine shop? The time and expense of setup alone is prohibitive to move a machine shop, but when you add loss of product into the equation its spells HUGE loss for the business in question.
Now onto your Starbucks lies again. How does foodservice(branded products) at all involve anyone building here? Kim caught you in another of your LIES and you post a useless link to try and cover it up. Do you have any other fake franchises to list while you are at it?
Did you even bother to click on the learn more link? Antigo doesn’t qualify for any of those options especially in the old antique store.
Here’s a useless link…
http://www.morseformayor.com
At least it was useless in the last election!
Kim, I wouldn’t even acknowledge the COWARD and LIAR who dares call himself a “VOICEOFREASON”. I have known felons with more morals then that windbag. At least VoiceofReason surves one purpose, Satan won’t be lonely in Hell…
COWARD, LIAR, and now I am headed to HELL! Wow, I really am bad!
Who are you to tell Stimac “where he belongs”???
He’s a man who took the time, effort and money to purchase a building, made the necessary adjustments to open a business, hire employees and create a product/service and pays his taxes.
Now that’s not good enough and he should only be allowed to do that if he’s located in the industrial park???
With the lack of anything going on downtown or elsewhere in this community, you’d think you’d be happy that there’s a business that can keep the doors open.
And you have the nerve to call us “negative” and “kooks”??? Kinda like calling the kettle black..isn’t it?
Alexis, do not waste your time with Voice. His lies about Stimac, Starbucks, and Morse have finally bitten him where the sun doesn’t shine. I can only be “positive” of one thing,; *****ofreason has now lost his voice here.
Mr. Jameson, denial is a predictable course of action for you. Deny it, call it a lie, and maybe it will go away. It won’t. The truth always comes out. I don’t want to get too hung up on STIMAC, but isn’t it interesting that while he was on council, his business was re-zoned to industrial. Why would we have one building zoned industrial in the middle of a commercial zone? And you kooks think this council is bad? Look at those of the past and it’s apparent that we have come a long way. Anyhow, that is the past. We have had two sober mayors in a row and a council that is moving the city forward. Congrats to Mr. Darling on his recent appointment to the council. I have known the man more than 10 years and am sure he will do a fantastic job. Speaking of the last council meeting, it was interesting that MORSE questioned four of the five applicants with the same question. However, he did not ask that of Ms. Karpf whom he (and his puppet KAPUSTA) voted for. Interesting. Finally, kudos to Channel 3 for covering the summer council meetings. Several weren’t covered last summer and it’s nice to be able to see exactly what is happening there. And once again, thanks to Mr. Jameson who says I am a LIAR, COWARD, lost my voice and am headed to HELL. Mr. Jameson, those are the rantings of a sane individual.
Starbucks wasn’t coming to Antigo. EVER! Your stupidity there was comical!
You have absolutley no proof(current invoice of debt) of your claims about Mr. Morse. I am still shocked that you would lie about a good man like that!
It takes more than one vote to rezone a property. Are you implying the entire council commited fraud? The city’s own(original) industiral park is in the middle of commericial properties. I guess Waukesha Bearing must be evil too…
Besides exposing yourself as a liar and coward, what are you trying to accomplish here?
I doubt describing Morse as a “good man” is entirely factual either, Jameson. I know him, too professionally and his complaining and knit-picking of everything under the sun is tiring to all who must deal with him. I Really believe that the city of Antigo is in desperate need of new leadership, which will consist of some younger blood on the city council next spring.
Jameson,
You live in denial. I have given the truth about Starbuck’s, you have denied it. People can now decide for themselves. It’s funny that you keep bringing up that there is no ‘current’ proof of MORSE stiffing a local business. His own paperwork that he submitted shows that over one year after the election, he still owed the money but wrote himself a check of $300. He has a history of not paying monies owed such as his property taxes which was printed in the paper. To be printed in the paper, he had to have not paid for three years. I haven’t heard you argue that he has paid that bill. Seeing as it was outstanding for a year, it’s his responsibility to show that he has paid it since his paperwork showed an outstanding balance at the close of his campaing reporting. Again, you don’t care because you are in league with him.
As for the former council, the loons ran the show back then with a drunken mayor at the helm. We are lucky that those days are behind us.
Now, in your loony ramblings, you have managed to ask one good question. What do I hope to accomplish? Great question.
1. I hope to see MORSE out of government altogether. I believe he is a liar, an embarrassment to the city, and everything that is wrong with politics.
2. I hope to give a voice to counter the kooks that ramble on at city meetings and grandstand to the camera. Kooks like STIMAC, DIECK, ZUPON, KARPF, as well as the two moronic council members, MORSE and KAPUSTA. They go out of their way to attack people and question people’s integrity instead of merely disagreeing with policy. I don’t agree with everything the city does, but I know they are not out to screw over anybody, they are trying to do what they think is best.
3. I hope to publicly applaud our city leaders and those that are trying to make a positive difference. Projects like broadband, the playground, the boardwalk and others are all attempts to make our community a better place. I can understand disagreement, but I have yet to hear plausible ideas from the naysayers. All I hear are cheap shots questioning they people that are actually doing something in the community. My family has been actively involved in many community events such as the playground, springbrook cleanup, the AVAIL candlelight vigil, the boomtown speaker, the railroad celebration, and others. It’s funny that I see the POSITIVE FIVE (NOSKOWIAK, KASSIS, HARDEN, BALCERZACK, LARSON) as well as MAYOR MATOUSEK while he was here and MR. SOUMIS at all of these kinds of events. I have yet to see any of the FROWNING FOUR at any event that benefits the community (full disclosure, DIECK was at the playground build the same day my family was and I heard that STIMAC gave to the project, kudos to them). Those city leaders that attend all or most of these are to be commended. It shows that they really are interested in our city because they go when there is no camera, no public forum, and no paycheck. It’s not that the FROWNING FOUR have jobs or anything else preventing them from coming to events such as these, they just don’t give a damn.
So, attack me as you will. It comes as no surprise because your kind complains about everything. You can expect to hear much more from THE VOICE!
Voiceofreason’s LIE: “I spoke with a local businessman who had a franchise agreement with Starbucks .”
The truth: “Does Starbucks franchise(from their website)?
Starbucks does not franchise operations and has no plans to franchise in the foreseeable future.
You cowardly posted a link to a branded products page as a response to being caught in a lie. It’t not denial, it’s black and white. Be a man and admit that you lied about it.
More lies.
VoiceofReason: “To be printed in the paper, he had to have not paid(property tax) for three years.
Truth: They post in the paper if you failed to pay the previous year. Three years of unpaid taxes will lead to them auctioning your property off for back taxes. Why lie about Mr. Morse?
Cowardness: “it’s his responsibility to show that he has paid it”
You are the man attacking Mr. Morse behind his back. You are the one making claims that he still owes Clermont printing money. I want your proof that he does. If you can’t provide proof, it sounds like you are making up more of your lies.
I want answers, not cowardness. With answer(not lies), comes respect.
Mr. Jameson, you grow tiresome. You want answers? You have been given answers, you just don’t like what you hear. What you really want is someone to agree with you, so keep talking to the loons, they will feed your ego.
Back to MORSE. For the sake of argument, let’s play your game and ASSUME that he has paid his debt since his last statement, which was a year after the campaign. Why did it take a year? Nothing on that statement showed a payment of the outstanding $800 owed to Clermont Printing. It does show that he paid himself $300. So, why could that $300 have not been applied to the debt? Why did it take over a year? MORSE has questioned the playground loan of $26,000 in the past two council meetings. The debt according to the last meeting was around $20,000 with $5000 pledged to be paid in August. So, in a matter of months, nearly 25% of the loan was paid off and with the pledged $5000, it will be near 60%. MORSE is still not happy about that. In contrast, his campaign paid NOTHING on the $800 debt to Clermont Printing for at least a year (that is what can be proved and Mr. Jameson likes proof). So, the question i have is, if he is not satisfied with 25-60% of a much larger debt being paid in a couple of months, why did he take over a year (if he paid it at all) to pay a mere $800? For that reason alone, the man should not be lecturing the council or anyone on fiscal responsibility. If he cannot manage his own finances and debt, why should we trust him with in matters of our tax money? So, assuming that he has paid the debt since his final statement, why so long? That is what can be proved by the public record Mr. Jameson. If any payment was made on that outstanding debt within that year, it was required by law to be on the statement that he provided. So, if it was paid in another way, that would be illegal. Either way, the man is unethical at the least. My guess is he never paid it at all!
And as far as your respect that would come with answers, respect from you would be something to be ashamed of. I prefer that we keep things the way they are. THe more a loon like you bashes me, the more credibility I will have. Keep it coming!
“that is what can be proved and Mr. Jameson likes proof”
Where is the invoice from Clermont printing showing his debt one year out? Mr. Morse was not required to go back to the clerk’s office and update his paperwork after the election. I see that you are making many assumptions here, but providing no evidence. I also see your ramblings(which because of your Starbucks lies I cannot believe) which in no way shows proof.
“My guess is he never paid it at all!”
As far as I know guesses do not equal proof. One day you have proof(supposed) and the next day all you have is guesses. If I went back in this thread and pulled out every claim you made against Mr. Morse, I would doubt that you have evidence of any of it.
What happened to that Starbucks Franchise that your friend was building? I could go for a Mocha Latte…
I guess your strategy is yell the word lie enough and people might believe you. It’s obvious you have convinced yourself, but only the loons will follow. If you passed the 8th grade education that you espouse in the other blog, you might have made it into my classroom and learned that truth is truth, no matter if you choose to believe it or not!
You make ridiculous claims that we have proven as lies and you dare call us loons? I have asked you for proof time and time again and you can not provide it. Your inability to provide the proof I have requested is more evidence of your dishonesty. I don’t need to yell the word lie anymore, you have shown your dishonest self to everyone here. Good bye and good riddance.
Voice, where to begin???
First of all, you stated quite early in this post that “personal conduct is a very legitimate issue”, yet it seems that you, yourself have sunk to a new low concerning name calling and personal attacks. I suppose in your next post your going to insist that things like “loons”, “kooks” and lacking logic are nothing more than terms of enderment.
Second, Morse, according to you, owed Clermont Printing $800 for a flyer he sent out and did not pay for even though he reimbursed himself $300. Maybe you can tell me what other campaign expenses he had because there HAD to be more than the cost of one flyer. Did his reimbursment state is was for debt incurred from the flyer? Clermont Printing??
And hell, he spent more than $800 and reimbursed himself a measily $300. *Gasp!* The nerve! He is obviously a bad, bad man.
Third, you use words like “guess” and “I heard” and pass it off as “proof” and “answers”. You very often answer a question that hasn’t been asked and gloss over the direct question. When asked further, you go off about personal attacks and how we just “don’t like what you hear”. Am I wrong or are you just, once again useing “the wrong word…”??? Maybe, if you have such a hard time choosing the right words and making coherent comments, you should just keep them to yourself.
Fourth, MORSE, KAPUSTA, EDER, or CAHAK…MORSE, KAPUSTA, EDER, or CAHAK…MORSE, KAPUSTA, EDER, or CAHAK… Do you sit in front of your computer chanting their names and rocking yourself while you post or is that just the image you project????
And lastly, you have never “hit a nerve” here. It’s just that your rants, raves and ramblings give everyone here sooooo much to pick apart. I think the only thing you’ve “hit”, is your head.
Ouch, I did hit my head today and that is probably why I complimented your blog on Social Services… no, you really did nail that one. As for MORSE, he spent almost $2000 on his campaign (and got almost 33 % of the vote…not a good return). All his donors, expenses, etc. are on the report that he filed. As I have said before, the report is available to all citizens at the Clerk’s office. On the final report, submitted a year after the election, there is an outstanding balance to Clermont printing for $800. It was a full color brochure sent to everyone in the city, hence the high cost. Any expenditures from the campaign are also on there, including the $300 he reimbursed himself. The bill was not paid as of that last report, which was submitted a year after the campaign. The evidence is there, but I doubt anyone on here bothered to look. He didn’t pay his property taxes which was printed in the newspaper while claiming to speak for the taxpayer. I would prefer he pay his own taxes before he speaks for me. He showed his lack of class in a hit piece he wrote to the Journal slamming our former mayor after he leaves town. Courageous man there! I believe that MORSE is unfit to serve on city council. You can disagree. Yes, he was voted in, because he ran unopposed. If his ward really supported his views, he would have beaten Matousek in his own ward but got buried…in every ward for that matter. As for KAPUSTA (the official puppet of MORSE), the chair I am sitting on is more intelligent than that man so beating him won’t be difficult for anyone. EDER and CAHAK, I have no problem with them other than I disagree with their voting record and the only other thing I have commented about them other than their voting is their lack of participation in any kind of community service such as the AVAIL candlelight vigil, Springbrook Cleanup, Playground Project, Historcal Society celebration, etc. Jameson asked what I am out to accomplish on here. I have outlined it in three points if you bothered to read the post. Get used to it because it will be written about often.
just to remind you all, this post was actually about mayor matousek resigning, not about broad band, or starbucks, ppl’s spelling, random council members, or the new playground(which looks amazing). mr. mayor left because yes religion and ministry were truly his passion, not mayoral positions. he had good ideas to make a crappy town more attractive, and prosperous, but he is gone now. i just hope his replacement will be able to do at least half the amazing job he did.
They all want proof, yet they are not willing to get their own proof to refute you. They are always asking you to prove it to them, how about if they prove to everyone else that Morse has paid his bills and taxes.
That’s how they operate. Attack and accuse. None of them bother to check the records, they just want to defend their own. The records MORSE provided show that the bill was unpaid a year later. If he did pay it since then, and I doubt he did, why did it take a year? The funny thing is, they don’t even realize that people see right through their flimsy arguments.
DUH (great name by the way), yes this post has evolved somewhat. To continue the momentum that Mr. Matousek started here, it’s important to get people on council that reflect his vision. Mr. Hardin is a good man and will do a fine job, but there are a few on the council that would try to kill all of the progress that has been made.
Earlier in this thread, Voice had claimed that Mr. Morse still owes Clermont printing money. After I challenged his evidence, his story changed(one year later, blah blah blah). I still want to see the proof of his claim that Morse still owes Clermont Printing money. That isn’t a public record, but Voice made it sound like he KNEW that Morse STILL owed Clermont Printing money. Voice made the claims, so the burden of proof lies on his shoulders. When Voice was claiming(falsely) that Morse owed three years of back property taxes, one could call that slander. When Voice was claiming that Morse still owed Clermont Printing money, one could also call that slander. I have said before that I do not like Mr. Morse as a person, but I do support his voting record. Voice said, “I have no problem with them other than I disagree with their voting record”. So leave it at that. Votes can be openly discussed, but slanderous accusations are just that, slander.
I agree with DUH, get on with your lives and realize that we have both good and bad on our city council. Frowners and nay-sayers…optimists and do-gooders.
Note: in regards to the Starbucks ‘franchise’, the gentleman who was working on getting Starbucks to come to Antigo was referring to it as that he would franchise it here. Those who know the gentleman in question will understand the misstatement.
Wow, after a great family vacation, I figured it was time to get caught up. Upon my reading, I came across this nugget offered by KAPUSTA concerning the boardwalk at the Lake District meeting…
Joe Kapusta suggested the northern natural area might be a bit too natural for some, worrying over the possibility of attacks on walkers by bears and “how about the wolves and coyotes?”
That was rich. I wish I could have seen that one in person!
Now I hear that at the Lake District meeting, MORSE, KAPUSTA, and EDER walked out of the meeting when the funding for the boardwalk went through. Can someone that was at the meeting confirm this? I am sure that if I am wrong, one of the kooks will start squawking and calling me a liar so I am asking, is this true? If so, each council member that left in the middle of a meeting should be censured at the very least. The take my ball and go home when things don’t go my way approach to government is a terrible example of leadership.
I did read something about half of the audience leaving a meeting last week but can’t confirm that it was council members.