The behavior of Antigo Middle students & the role that lack of leadership and consequences both at home & in school plays in this problem that is basically hidden from the community.
Be who you are & say what you want, because those that matter don’t mind & those that mind don’t matter.
(The above was sent to us in an email as a request for a new blog)
The younger generation has very different values and morals as those of us, say in our thirties & forties. There is a major lack of respect for authority and elders. I remember being told ALL through my childhood to “respect your elders”. You NEVER would talk back to a teacher or someone’s parent and NEVER to your own parents. Society has changed in many ways and there is certainly some room for improvement with our youth. The younger generation is LAZY and it seems as though this problem isn’t getting any better. The parents and teachers need to step up and make changes.
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This is sooo corresct. These young kids do not have any respect for any one, or any thing. We build a new play ground for the children, and i see kinds 12 and thirteen there carving on the new wood, and smoking cigarettes and throwing the butts in the play ground area. I must say, where are the parents? I drive down my street, and I am constantly seeing young kids, either walking alone, or riding their bikes. I nearly hit a small child due to them darting out in the middle of the street on their bike. I sound the horn behind bikers to let them know I am there, and I get the middle finger. Again, where are the parents? They are supposed to be the ones to teach these children the saftey that they need to grow up in this violent world. And if I see one more kid with his pants down and his underware showing, I could scream. I have a hard time believing that any of these kids will have a fair chance at a job. And yes, they are lazy. They dont want to work. Where I work, we have some young teens, some do a great job, but others, they just want to sit on their butts. Most of the time, all I hear about from them is video games, computers, and their thugg music, if you can call it that. I simply dont know what kind of life most of them will lead. I think some thing really needs to be done though, and it starts with the parents. I understadn the frustration of teachers. They get swore at, and all kinds of things, yet they are not allowed to say any thing, because they could lose their jobs. Also, when I was in the high school, the new one here, they had a punishmant class room called 148, detention. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? Seriously. I watched kids act up so they could go hang out there with their buddys. It does no good to put some one there? they get time to get out of class, and do their work there, instead of at home. If they would have to d oit at home to get thier grades, maybe they wouldnt be down at cons, or hanging out at walmart causing trouble. I am for ever seeing the youngsters hanging out in groups at walmart. I deliberately keep an eye on them to see how they act. Its rediculous. Taking item and just moving them around the store. Fifteen year olds shouting, yelling, playing with little kids toys there, and the just ditch them some where in the store. AGAIN, where are the parents? Dont get me wrong, there are a lot of nice young kids out there, and I commend the parents on the great job that they are doing, but I myself, would have never gotten away with the things that some of these kids are pulling. I for one, will never allow my child to become bored with life. If we keep them interested in things, and have things to do, then they will not have the opportunity to find their own things to do, as drugs, smoking, drinking, and having sex at such young ages. My god, cant kids be kids? Why do they have to know about sex and condoms at the age of seven and eight. Shouldn’t parents monitor their children and who they are with? Parents, please, talk to your children, get involved with them, their school, their life. Know their friends, and their parents, check up on them when they are going to a friends house. Converse with the parents of their friends. talk to them about sex, drugs, smoking and drinking at 14, and 15, make sure they know the importance of getting good grades, so that they can some day move on, go to college, and be some thing. And this goes for the young 18 year old mothers. If your parents didn’t do this for you, make the change. My parents were afraid to mention sex to me through out my whole life. Luckily, I made it through with a good record. Also parents, read to your kids as they are growing up. It does miracles. limit their tv viewing, and put on some educational programs, not cartoons that have killing and such. we need to clean up our world, and it starts with cleaning up the youth that will soon be the world, and their success begins with us parents showing them the right way. And another thing, Even if you do not attend services, get you child involved in church, youth groups, and study groups. Well, I hope some of you take this serious, Maybe it will help. God Bless
I agree with the original post and with you BIGNEWS. I have a step-son who is now 15. I have been in his life for a little over five years now and I do not know how many times his father and I discussed the behavior of him and his friends. We would never have behaved like that…not because our parents beat us or anything, but just because we knew better.
I consider it a lack of respect. No respect for money and hard work because they’ve been handed anything they could ever want or need, just by asking. No respect for their or anyone elses belongings, because they carry the mentality of it’s all replaceable…just go to the store and get it. No respect for anyone, including themselves.
And why should they??? We talk about what we’re teaching our kids in the blog about Social Services. Children of program abusers can grow up believing that their entitled to a free ride and that someone will always provide what they need. Some families are struggling to make ends meet and their children end up fending for themselves. Some parents are too busy trying to be their child’s “friend” or trying to buy their love or make themselves the “better liked parent” in the case of split families and custody issues. ( I’m very familiar with that one, being a step-parent) None of them are giving their kids what they truely need…the ability to some day be a responsible adult.
And we know that the problems of the middle school flow over into the high school. So it’s not just 7-9th graders who are showing bad judgement.
Case in point would be the two senior classmen who crashed a graduation party then were not allowed to leave by the father of the party’s recipient, as he had discovered they had been drinking. They attacked the man, finally knocking him down with a blow to the head….Nice kid you got there.
Raising children to be responsible, respectful and caring is a full time job. It is not up to the teachers and the babysitters. It’s up to the people who created that life and chose to raise them. As I stated in the other blog, if you can not physically, emotionally and financially care for your children, then you should not be having children. There are too many options and too many opportunities in life to let you kid grow up being a punk!
Parents need to get involved with their kids.
I’m not here to support one religion over another etc… but the youth of this city need to be involved. Be involved in the Boys and Girls Club, their local church group, or 4H (and any group I may have missed) – all of these activities can help _support_ their parents in raising them right.
Also, as adults, we all can recommend these activities and be supporting of them to help change the direction of the youth. We also need to step up and make a positive impact on our kids.
well, I think the real problem is that there is no way to discipline kids anymore. Parents can’t spank them without being referred to social services, teachers have no recourse because the administration needs them to graduate so the school can get their numbers up, cops can’t arrest them because they are juveniles and just get sent home with their parents. Kids have nothing to fear! The ones that do get in trouble have their parents so brain-washed that they file complaints against the people that punish them because their little Johnny can do no wrong. I’ve heard so many teachers say they get absolutely no support from administration when dealing with bad kids. If a kid cheats in class, give them another chance, or two or three. Come on, teach them some morals and ethics. If you screw up, admit it and pay the price. That’s the way I was brought up. My parents sure the hell didn’t go running to the school board every time I got sent to detention. Do they still have after school detention even? Why make them pay during school hours and go hang out with their friends in 148 and screw around and not do any work and then give them a “C” so they can get their diploma and the school district can get their numbers for the state. Absolutely ridiculous.
I can remember as a kid that you could be gone all summer playing with your friends, my parents knew where we were it was safer then going to the park, playing kick the can at night know a days you have to just about watch your kid like a hawk whether they are 5 or 15…I also from the age of 10 always had a summer job cuz if I wanted the extra “cool” stuff for school I had to buy it myself…it really sucks that this how the times are changing too, but what sucks more is some of society is accepting it!
I agree with IT Burns, get your kids involved in as much activities as possible, it keeps them off the streets. I have three great kids who were always involved in church and community groups and they have all grown up to be good, young adults. There are plenty of youth groups in this town, even though there is some lacking on that for the most part. The Boys & Girls Club offers STEKO Youth group on Monday evenings from 6-10 and I know that Antigo Community Church has alot of youth programs. Check it out and get them involved!
Well… I suppose I’ll chime in on this, being ‘new blood’ and all
Though I’m not making this as an excuse, part of such behaviors and lack of respect does come in part from the changing family/work balance. With increasing divorce rates and single-parent families, the need to work multiple jobs in some cases (and as a result not being able to afford appropriate child care/supervision), and youth/teenagers ‘working’ themselves in the community instead of helping out with the family business and/or farms as the case may be.
Again, I know this isn’t the whole story because I’m a college senior now, so I’m all of 5-10 years older than the youth we are talking about. 148 was a joke when I was there, and they do have after-school detention but teachers don’t want to give them because then some staff member has to stay after with them when they should be able to go home. That’s why Rm. 148 or ‘in-school suspension’ as they call it came about. The other program that the high school does that I just LOVE (sarcasm intended) is the alternative education option of working on a computer for six weeks to make up an entire 4-month semester of school, to get the same A that other students bust their hump for. I agree that there are cases where this may be useful, but just like the joke of 148, students will screw off just to get into this program so things are easier for them.
Another hilarity is that after the skate park which was graffiti’ed and such after a week, and the community-built playground which didn’t even go a week before such behavior, and other youth initiatives, teenagers and youth complain that they want more stuff because there’s “nothing to do” around Antigo. Maybe if people didn’t screw up the opportunities provided to them, Antigonians might be a little more receptive to their concerns.
As far as the discussion about how kids are getting older at younger ages so to speak, it’s a scary nationwide phenomenon; it has even gone so far as that girls are getting their first period, on average, 6 months to a year earlier than they were just two or three decades ago. There is one fact that sticks into my brain now as much as it did when I first heard it, and while it may not be accurate it may be close: in the four years I was in high school, there were a total of 49 pregnancies among high school females… and 18 among middle school females. Antigo High has credit-earning classes in how to be a young mother now, the school-age parent program. I’m not complaining that they are doing this, as I think it’s good to help young mothers; it’s the fact that they NEEDED to add this class that scares me.
A family member is employed at the Middle School. The things he has told that goes on there are absolutely mind-blowing. The teachers have no control or authority whatsoever. They are glorified babysitters for brats. These kids swear at the teachers & staff,they destroy school property on a regular basis,there is basically nothing the staff can or will do about it & those obnoxious brats know it. You call the parents(parent) & they swear at you too & tell you to deal with it . They break windows ALL the time, that require maintenance staff extra time & therefore extra money from taxpayers. But most times the parents of these “kids” don’t care about the cost incurred, because they are unemployed or underemployed anyway or sitting in the bars or doing drugs. Raising good & responsible, OBEDIENT children is NOT at the top of their list. They figure if they can just keep them alive, they did their job.
Mr. Knol is a nice man, but a leader he is not. Jiles Cole would whip that place into shape if he were still there. He didn’t think twice about calling the police on an incorrigible kid. Mr. Knol, however, doesn’t want to deal with all the paperwork involved & that is NOT an assumption on my part,it is common knowledge at the Middle School.
These young people who should be taking pride in their appearance & actions, will smear feces on the walls of the restrooms. They have put plastic over the bowl, defecated on top of it & smeared it all over the washroom. Yes, our custodians make good money….NOW you know why. You couldn’t pay ME enough to deal with that kind of behavior!
One 13 year old went up to a teacher, mind you, & told her that he was going to kill her son! I believe THAT ended in an expulsion, but it was the only one I remember in recent history. Our 4 children went through the Middle School, too, years ago & none of that was tolerated under Jiles Cole. He took his job seriously & earned every dime he got for it. Now, our principal & vice principal walk around with coffee cups in their hands. Kids leave the classrooms whenever they feel like it & walk & RUN the halls. They swear at the teachers & say they don’t have to stay if they don’t want to & just up & leave & wander the halls. Usually, nothing is done. One teacher, who “teaches” the “emotionally disturbed” kids, buys them Mountain Dew out of his own pocket, as a bribe! Good idea! Sugar the already bratty kids up so they can have even more energy to abuse the staff, school & other students!
Whatever lawmaker it was that abolished corporal punishment in schools needs to be forced to spend one solid month in a school & then see where he stands. It’s easy to spout off about not being physical when you are not the one dealing with these rotten brats. & IF some of these kids have “issues” because of suffering any kind of abuse at home or elsewhere, then it is up to the PARENTS to see that they get the therapy they need to become responsible people, not the school system. You can’t NOT punish a child just because he has “issues” or has/had a hard life. That is a cop out. That will only make them worse, not better. They still have got to be responsible for what they do. Soon they will enter the BIG world, where everything does not revolve around them & they will be FORCED to comply.I hope I am NOT alive to see it. Why is it a person has to have a license to drive a car, own a business, etc. but any idiot is allowed to have children?? Feeding them & clothing them is the LEAST responsibility of having them! Teaching them to be good, responsible, caring, empathetic,God fearing people is so much more important. My daughter has it right when she says “Stupid people should not breed”.
Shalimar
THANK GOD YOU FINALLY STOPPED AT 4 “Stupid people should not breed”.
After reviewing all of the posts I think we should reflect on what has been shared, told and commented on. Who created these children? We did people, collectively we did as a society. We let this happen and we let it continue to occur. I agree about the need for parenting classes; it scares me too. Corporal punishment in the schools, never experienced it and never needed it. Respect for teachers, parents and leaders kept me on the right track. When I missed up I got punished by being grounded and I didn’t get to turn in my parents for abusing me by making me stay in my room or skipping a meal. THAT is a definite change in the times. Kids can now turn in the parents and teachers and we have to live in fear of what kids will accuse us of and ruin our reputations and lives because of the accusations they make. The animals are in charge of the zoo to put it mildly. Now, this is not all kids by any imagination. There are a lot of good kids just trying to get through the experience of going to school instead of learning for the future. Antigo is not alone in this; it is happening everywhere. We have great kids growing up here in spite of the parents (and I use that term loosely) they have and unfortunately we are putting them into a big world with a lot of hard knocks to hand out. I am not surprised to see the best and the brightest leave once they graduate from school. I just pray they come back to the community to make a difference when they can like I see some are doing.
Where did the rest of FED UP’s post go? There was more before…are we censoring?
My apologies, I mixed up the different postings on two different blogs. The Voice was wrong, sorry for the mix up.
In response to Fed Up, I have to admit that as a soon-to-be college graduate, I have my reservations about coming back to Antigo and being a part of the community. I will always call Antigo home, but it’s hard with weighing the roots I have here versus the job market and opportunities here. That’s an issue for another blog topic though
Shalimar, i agree that just because a child has issues shouldn’t give them a free pass; however, how can we expect parents who abuse their children or just flat out neglect them to take responsibility for helping their child get the help they need. Children who are actually being abused/neglected have every right to be able to ‘turn in’ their parents; however this right is being abused itself by children who have “good” home lives relatively speaking. I have two younger siblings and one would always threaten to call social services (and in some cases actually call them) if she didn’t get her way. I wish I could say that was a rarity, but I am going to school to work in a social work/counseling capacity and it is an occurrence in many places (like Fed said, it isn’t just an Antigo thing), and teachers and other professionals have to report any suspected abuse or neglect since they can’t be held liable for reports that end up untrue, but can get in serious sh** if they don’t report one. Obviously you can see that as good or bad.
Unfortunately, this is not a problem that can can be fixed overnight, but it is also not a problem that can’t be fixed or at least reduced.
“loves Antigo”: If ALL children were raised like my husband & I raised our FOUR, there wouldn’t even be a blog about this…
Now we have more vandalism at the Community Park…what a shame! These kids need to start doing some community service when caught doing these stupid things. You can say that it’s all part of growing up and peer pressure (blah,blah,blah) but there are a lot of good kids out there who wouldn’t think of being so disrespectful!
I agree Sherry. It made my heart sick to see the words they scrawled everywhere! BTW, they cannot even spell their profanities correctly
Speaks so highly for what kind of person(s) they were to do such a thing. There are a lot more kids who were NOT involved than what were I am sure; unfortunately the squeaky wheel gets the grease so to speak. It is my hope that these vandals are indeed caught (someone please turn them in for the $300 reward!) and made to work off the cost of the clean-up and repairs. For the good kids and young adults, I hope the movement to spur regrowth and renewal continues and people continue to participate in community projects in the future and don’t let these incidents of vandalism taint what great things are happening.
Well, to the best of my knowledge, the vandal(s) has nt yet been aprehended. Community service? It might work. But fines do no justice for them, because the parent will have to pay for it. I think that the vandal should have to go to the park, buy their own supplies, and personaly remove the graffiti them selves. What a rotten thing for some one to do. The community tries to do some thing good to change the lives of the younger one coming up, and the ones who should be leaders and guiders for them are doing more damage than good. I guess they just don’t have any thing better to do. Should we build them some brick walls and supply them with aint for their own graffiti play ground?
Vandalism is about getting noticed, which is odd since it’s anonymous. Anyhow, if community service is involved make sure it is good community service; a few years ago teenagers were able to do their community service at the Boys & Girls Club ‘cleaning’ and otherwise hanging out with their friends…
I say let the parents pay the fines. Maybe when you hit them where it hurts, the wallet, they will finally get a clue and keep tabs on their unruly brats. Where are these people when their kids are out causing all this trouble?
ddddd- I agree the parents should pay, but it depends on the situation. A friend of our family has two kids that are the “gangster” type that seem to be overtaking the high school. She would drop them off at school, and then once she left the parking lot they would walk off and leave. It wasn’t her fault, but she got charged and had to spend the week of Christmas behind bars because of what her kids did. She tried everything to get them to stay, but they wouldn’t listen, and she had to pay for their stubborness and stupidity.
DF2Y- That really is a shame. You know, it just really baffles me that these kids have such NERVE! You and I have said before that neither of us have ever even tried a cigarette. I never did, because I knew my Dad would have been so disappointed in me. The thought of even the look on his face if he found out, was enough to keep me from trying so many things! What he thought of me, always mattered so much more than what other kids thought. From reading your posts, I would bet anything that you have very concerned parents that keep tabs on you and encourage you and are so proud of you. How does it get to the point where kids like your family friend’s just do not care what their own parents think? How did she lose total control of them? It seems more and more, that some kids just get away with everyhing. You are right, this woman should not have gone to jail. Once she got them to school, I would think it was the job of the school to keep them in. When I was in school, there was really no way to sneak out once you were in there. There was at least someone at each door to watch. Can you just come and go as you please in Antigo?
I think the problem comes down to our lack of moral responsibility in society. When I was growing up (im 25, it has not been that long!) My parents taught me right from wrong, and I was not influenced by TV of Video Games, even though I watched and played them. That was because of what my parents instilled in me at a very young age. Respect elders, do what is right, think of yourself second, others first. When my mom had found out I did something, regardless of how small the offense (say, borrowing a dollar from the counter in the kitchen at home that didn’t belong to me) she would tell me she was disappointed in me. That hurt, because for me the approval of a job well done for my from my parents and grandparents was the ultimate reward, not money or candy or the latest toys. I think parents (myself included) have to remember that no matter what, how we raise our children will be the biggest influence in their lives from a young age on. Once they enter school (and in Antigo, especially Middle School) if they are not armed with good morals and values about what is right and wrong – it will be too late, and there may never be the option of turning back…
In regards to the vandals of the Antigo Community Playground, as reported in the Journal, the kids have been caught. Both of them apparently 10 years old and their parents will be paying restitution. You can see the Journal article here: http://www.antigodailyjournal.com/full.php?id=6678
Ten years old? It must have taken awhile to do all that damage, so obviouly the parents were nowhere around. With all the registered sex offenders in the Antigo area, no kids should be left alone that long. getoverit – You are right and it was the basically the same for me growing up. When my parents said they were proud of me, that was just the ultimate. I do think some rewards for a job well done are fine, but I don’t want my kids to think that they get things for nothing. In life, you must work hard for everything and that’s such an important lesson. I’ve heard such awful things about the middle school here. Our kids are young so we haven’t had that experience yet and I dread it. I hate hearing that it may be too late at 11, 12 and 13, but maybe you are right about that too. It’s certainly too late if nothing changes at HOME!
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Excuse us teenagers for wanting to have some fun…,Antigo is filled with preps that are in 100 sports and the “normal” kids and “punks” are sick of being accused of “not having respect” just because we dont wanna kiss the teachers as*es like 99% of the preps…If you guys care sooo much about us maybe you should encourage the teenagers to follow their own path.
go ahead and follow your own path, but if another teenagers path happens to lead into the path of my car i might just not stop. there are ways to have fun and not be disrespectful to others. i see it all the time kids running around causing chaos and getting into trouble. and being nice to your teachers isnt kissing their a$$, its just being nice. maybe if you tried it your path could lead to a job and i decent future, not jail.
Wow, I am laughing hysterically at Delirums post here. How can you sit there and tell kids that they should be nice, but if they dont you will run them over with your car? If you think your a good example for kids to follow then God help us all, we are going to have a town full of hit-and-run drivers!
There are many kids here just trying to find out who they want to be. So many try to leave the second they can and not look back; I think it says a lot about this town and not necessarily the attitudes of the children.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I am not saying all children here are angels. I attended school here like many of you but I honestly believe the majority are just attempting to survive things than cause chaos. (Though, some do need attitude adjustments.)
It is like saying ALL adults want to run over every single teenager with their vehicles. Generalizations don’t help matters.
Just my thoughts…
Part of survival and finding out who you are is testing out things…
then let me rephrase, next 19 yr old who jumps in front of my car might just get hit.
I’m a 23 old male & this is the reason why I can’t stand being around my peers, for the most part. My peers flat out refuse to work. Any intelligent conversation is very, very few & far between. A generation with no ethics, morals, or any decency for that matter. It infuriates me when I’m out doing something in town & ma & pa are just watching as their kids are acting unruly in the store. It’s have all I can do to keep myself from taking the parents over knee & spanking them!
A couple of thoughts:
This is exactly what happens when you take God out of the school system. Here’s a few suggestions that I know will never be implemented (because it will hurt the child’s feelings). We should place harsh deterrents in place, as in, the death penalty for crimes such as murder, rape, & DWI on the first offense. Bring back the gallows. When a criminal is getting hanged, bring all the local media, put it on the evening news, and make sure the kids are watching. Parents could take the opportunity to explain to kids what happens to criminals and how it applies to them.
The “feel good movement” is one of this country’s worst moves. Call me crazy, but (I’ll just use the example of a sports competition) is it not the taste of 2nd place and defeat that makes one train harder, sweat more, & cry all night if need be.
I sort of like what what Delirum says because you can use the media for that to you can show this to the kids and re-instruct them as to what happens when you don’t look both ways before crossing the street.
I will leave with this: GIVE THE TEACHER THEIR PADDLES BACK!!!
The people in here complaining about kids these days are the same group that raised those kids.. Am I wrong?
Obviously that was a generalization but its also a gerneralization to say kids these days are worse than ever. Is it possible that they aren’t any worse? Is it possible that you just don’t remember kids being that bad because you were a kid yourself and weren’t paying attention? Cause i bet kids didnt carve things into picnic tables or talk back to teachers in the ’70s and ’80s rignt? Get real!!
Is it possible you just here more about kids doing bad things these days because of globalization and social media? Its the new world we live in get use to it.
i’m 21 it wasnt that long ago that i was a kid, and im absolutely appalled at what i see kids doing now, and what they were doing when i was growing up. my parents raised me with respect and discipline, so maybe more parents need to grow a pair and parent their children, instead of letting them get away with anything.
speaking of kids that don’t have the proper upbringing,
does anyone know anything about the kids that were slashing tires in some areas of Antigo.
Although you can raise your chid the best you know how, they are individuals, they either live life the right way or not.
Wow, the “street thugs” these days seem to be starting out earlier & earlier. What’s up with this bogus “Juvenile” law system. Hypothetically speaking, if ur man enough to do the crime, ur man enough to do the time. Go & get ur concealed carry permit on November 1.
Right. Good advice. Thugs should all pack heat, to make sure they’ve got protection from the trigger-happy public….
Oh please people use the excuse that u cant spank ur kids anymore because someone will report u to social services. Thats just an excuse so u dont have to parent. Spanking is discipline just like timeouts. I dont condone abuse but there is a difference between abuse and spanking a child. I was spanked when i was a child and guess what i’m just fine. My feeling is that if my child will hit me then i’m gonna smack his/her butt and if someone has a problem with that they can kiss my butt. I dont spank my kids often we usually do timeouts or some other form of discipline but if they have done something to deserve a spanking then they get it!
“So irritated”, there is NO difference between spanking a child and abuse. Put on your little tin foil thinking cap and wish all you want, but spanking is still wrong. It simply teaches the child that violence is the way to resolve conflict. First case in point: you were spanked as a child, and now you spank your own child. Second case: you have already taught your child to hit you! The lesson you learned as a child is that the big people can hurt the little little people any time time they want to. The sad part is, you actually know better. You know that there are alternatives to spanking for discipline, but you can’t control yourself when someone presses your hot button. The spankings you got as a child really haven’t done much to teach to you how to manage your own behavior, have they?
“Jerry Muelver” first of all u have made a LOT of assumptions. I didnt teach my children to hit me! my son learned it at school and second thats a pretty big assumption on ur part to say that “i cant control myself.” Thirdly I love how u cant make a statement without being a degrading jerk and acting like u know everything!
“So irritated”, by striking your child you teach that hitting is okay. So, you taught your child to hit you. Children do not learn to hit adults in school!
“JerryMuelver” there u go again acting like u know everything! As a matter of fact he did learn to hit adults from a kid in his class thank you very much and I didnt ask for anyone’s opinion on MY parenting. I’m not telling you how to parent your child, if u even have any, so i DONT want or need ur advice nor was i asking for it!!!!!!
In fact, I do not actually know EVERYTHING, but I know a lot of important-to-know stuff. Let me share some it with you — http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577018223567068482.html
Yeah, I know you didn’t ask. Too bad. Asking is a pretty good way to learn. Maybe you can teach your kid to ask instead of hitting.
By the way, it’s not just me. See http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/09/world/sweden-punishment-ban/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
Seriously, all kids are disrespectful. Once they grow up, they either stay disrespectful or they leave Antigo and learn to act like adults. I’m 34 and when I was a kid, “respectful” kids got their a$$es beat. I have no doubt whatsoever that this is different for any other generation.
When I was a kid, if I called non-teacher adults “Mr.” or “Mrs.,” I’d get “Whoa! Mr. Blank is my father!” as a response. I’m fairly certain no one here under the age of 50 wishes to be addressed as Mr. or Mrs. by a fresh faced youth who thinks you look 100 years old.
Also, the “can’t spank your kid without getting DSS called,” is rhetorical BS. I doubt very much that your sister’s nephew’s boss’s gardener ever had DSS called on them for something other then a legitimate reason.
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Is it possible you just here more about kids doing bad things these days because of globalization and social media? Its the new world we live in get use to it.
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Heleen Krueger,
Am I reading your post right? Are you saying that there are no respectful children in Antigo?
If you’re talking about kids like the ones that vandelized my airblown halloween globe (twice mind you, I repaired it both times) and other people’s property around the city, then yes there are no respectful kids in Antigo. But those are only a few bad apples. There are a lot more respectful kids in Antigo than that and we shouldn’t let the disrespectful ones make all of them look bad.
Exactly Randy!!
I work hard to make sure my kids are respectful people and I think I have been very successful. There ARE a lot of children in Antigo that are nice respectful children.
People really need to be careful with sweeping generalizations…..they are usually wrong and very offensive.
wishes there was an EASY button to raising kids to be respectable adults, and to raise the adults to be respectable adults….there are bad ones of each.. there are sooo many on here I agree with, but am most impressed with those who are the young adults that made it through and are also disgusted with the way the younger kids are these days…its tooo bad, that all the kids in this gen, could be shown a future version of their lives going down different paths, and then maybe they would all make wiser choices…if they knew where it would lead them….wouldnt that be great for us all?
I think part of this problem comes from kid never learning to have disappointment in life. There’s special youth hunts, so they can go ahead of everyone else while it’s nice and warm, they all have most of the newest gadgets, and the list goes on.
I say get rid of the early hunting seasons to get them in with the rest of us, to learn they have to work for what they see. I say stop buying every gadget under the sun for them, to make them learn to want to have something and appreciate it when they get it, I say make them ride the bus to make relationships with other kids that are their neighbors and to make them have to get out of bed early to catch the bus.
All of these things reflect on their work ethics when they get into the work force. Face it, we all know people that continually walk into work every day at 6:59 when they start at 7:00, while those of us older people are ready to work at the given start time….without a cell phone ringing or buzzing every 5 minutes.
Don’t get me wrong, there are pleanty of good kids out there with all of the right ethics, but they are exception, and not the norm, where it used to be just reversed.
Maybe people need to just tell their kids NO. We did, and it wasn’t very popular at the time, but it worked.