Another piece of the legacy of the Tommy Thompson “government
by suspension of ratiocination” era bobbed up to the surface,
according to news reports. A re-interpretation of a state
constitutional amendment pasted-in during the Thompson years
asserts that it’s now okay to carry a handgun in the open “as
long as you’re not doing anything wrong.”
A spokesman from Nuts Running Amuck (NRA, but no relation to
the other NRA, of course) explained to me, off the record, that
anyone packing heat would, of course, unbuckle and drop his
gun-belt before “doing anything wrong”, because that would be
the right and legal thing to do. And, of course, anyone asserting
his alleged Second Amendment rights always has legal behavior
first and foremost in mind, of course.
When I suggested that everyone packing pistols would make
communities look like Dodge City of the Wild West, my NRA
spokesman said, “Of course. That’s the point. If everyone is
armed, no one is harmed. Think about it. If the passengers on
those 9-11 airliners had been armed, they would have taken
out those hijackers who only had box-cutters anyway.”
“But,” I butted, “wouldn’t it be dangerous to have all those firearms
around, loose, where kids could get their hands on them?”
“Dangerous? Hell, no! You’re not thinking, man! Don’t you read the
papers? Don’t you know all those cases recently, where some
nut father kills his wife and kids, the whole family? There have
been, like 60 people killed by nuts with guns so far this year. I’m
telling you, if those kids had been properly armed with handguns,
they could have off’ed their old man as soon as he started acting
bonkers, and all those families would be alive today!”
Well, he’s got a point. I guess I just never thought about it that
way.
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@Jerry. As soon as I get done laughing and can pull myself back into my chair I will try to make sense of your increasingly incoherent babble used to cover your tracks.
Just when you think it can’t get any ore senseless, Jerry turns his computer back on lol.
Well said Big Trucker and Morons all! Don’t expect your facts to sink in for Jerry though because he has the liberal ability to not see them. They actually do not appear in the text on his screen
@ Admin. The link to the School Referendum poll is bad and does not go anywhere. Please fix
@morons all – Your fantasy suppositions on what might have happened are irrelevant. You can make up your own mind, but you cannot make up your own facts.
@big trucker – You still haven’t told me how carrying a concealed weapon is supposed to help you when someone has pulled a gun on you. Isn’t that part of your training?
@Really – it should be fixed now, Thx – http://antigobuzz.com/blogs/2011/08/13/new-antigo-grade-school-referendum-poll/
Jerry, Just for argument, because thats all your tolling backside is after, I really can’t say until it would happen, god forbid. It’s no different than helping at a car accident… you may jump right in up to your elbows, or run with your tail between your legs. I suspect which one of the two you would do, because those of us carrying surely bother you. In fact, it seemingly scares you. Now, like it or not, the law was passed by a majority… oh that’s right, you liberals can’ fathom that word…. It means more voted for it than not; of the people that were elected by a majority… oops, there’s that pesky word again. Face it, you were given more examples than I can shake a stick at and it just doesn’tseem to sink in. Those examples were actual new reports from reputable sources, unlike the one example you sited from that liberal online site you found.
To try to ask what would happen if someone had a gun on you would like ask what you would do if you were hit in the head by a golf ball sized piece of hail… Il dont know, but I would rather have a helmet on as to not have one.
Well said Big Trucker. I am now waiting for the concealed carry recall to start lol.
I guess if we’d all quit replying to the liberal troll, he’d either leave or change his name again. It sure seems people are onto him, in any case!
I wrote this love letter for you Jerry on a different board, but unfortunately I think you missed it. My writing is so eloquent though that I figured it had to be shared on this page for the whole world to see. It is in response to how brilliant and well known you seem to think you are (and discusses your using of two different handles on this blog to make people think that someone agress with your terrible ideas).
Luckily for me Jerry I am not a resident of Langlade County, so I am not privy to your fame. If you were big in Pepin or Taylor Counties, then that’d be saying something!! (that was sarcasm by the way…again….just wanted to make sure you could follow me). As for the Albus thing…you rode Gary Zarda relentlously with your big words and liberal double speak under the Albus moniker, discussing how not revealing your true identity should have no saying towards the veracity of your statements. But then when I called Albus out, Jerry came into play, as if to fool the people on this board that another person agreed with Albus…can’t Albus defend himself? Lame, very lame, especially for someone that thinks so highly of themself!!
And I must have really struck a cord when I called Albus Al Gore…it got you all hot and bothered. Does your alter-ego have a secret crush on him?
You’ve met your match Mr. Muelver. Soon you’ll be waking up in the middle of the night screaming my name out of fear of the whooping you’ll be receiving every day on these boards.
I love it morons all!
Jerry I think morons all just exercised his pimp hand on you. SMACK!
Still waiting for the wild west shoot outs I have been hearing would take place. Where are they all, did I get a permit for nothing?
Morons all said, “You’ve met your match Mr. Muelver. Soon you’ll be waking up in the middle of the night screaming my name out of fear of the whooping you’ll be receiving every day on these boards.”
Right. Uh-huh. Yup.
@Really – The wild west shoot outs you’ve been hearing about are from the voices in your head, I’m afraid. They are just fevered adolescent dreams. No one here has predicted anything of the kind. You apparently got your permit for “self protection”, so you could terrorize a mugger by saying, “Put that gun down! I’ve got a concealed carry permit, and I might just be carrying right now!” The mugger will undoubtedly be petrified with fear, drop his gun and run off as fast as he can.
Jerry you may want to go and read some of your previous liberal rants about the dangerous situation that will be created by the concealed carry law in Wisconsin. I think your spouting so much BS each day you can’t remember half the nonsense that seeps out of your cake hole.
@Really – “Wild west shoot out”? I said that? Please show us the post, Honorable Master.
Your very good at this sort of thing Jerry. Though you will not find the exact quote “Wild west shoot out” You will find your implications of it. When you get there Jerry come back and reread what I wrote and notice no quotation marks in my statement. Any other questions feel free to ask and I will take some more time to hold your hand as I walk you back through it. Really it’s not a problem. Kinda like charity and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
Jerry was more worried about someone mistakingly shooting him thinking he was cranking his wife because he was a bald headed older man. I do kind of remember him whinig about how unsafe things were going to be.. or at least implying that. Typical liberal rants.
@Big Trucker – “Typical liberal rants”? You would use “liberal” in a pejorative sense? Consider this:
“What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican Party? I’ll tell what they did. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil rights Act, the Voting Rights act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals Passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those thngs, every one. So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, “‘Liberal,” as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won’t work, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor.” — Lawrence O’Donnell Jr.
@Really – So, you put your own interpretation on my words, extend the point ad absurdum, then criticize the absurdity you yourself created, and claim victory in the argument? Are you contending with Morons All for the “Master” title? You, like he, have much work to do, Grasshopper. You should spend some of your TV time at http://attitudeadjustment.tripod.com/Books/Logic.htm to learn what to avoid and how to strengthen your reasoning muscles.
Big Trucker I don’t know when I have been entertained as much in my life as reading the go round the bush posts that Jerry puts up.
You and I should start a pool taking odds on the types of words Jerry will use in his next post as he attempts to distract the readers from his foolish previous posting.
And if we win anything from this pool Big Trucker, we could go in together and buy our own pejorative! Think of the things we could do with it? If you use it to it’s full potential we may get to the point of owning our own absurdum. Not sure that’s even a word but it is humorous none the less right? Think of the possibilities for a couple of guys like us with both a pejorative and a absurdum! The world would be our oyster. And the chicks would just be lining up around the block.
Jerry have you ever heard of little man syndrome? You have it but don’t realize big words don’t make a bigger man.
ad adsurdum is the word for the day in case anyone missed that. Stop playing with your pejoratives for a minute and give ad adsurdum some equal time. hahahahahahahaha. Will this ever get old!
So, Really, Big Trucker, and Morons All, you’re coalescing into the Three Amigos! How joyful for our enlightened community! Unfortunately, you have caused me to break a promise. I promised my Mom, when I ventured out into the world on my own, that I would never engage an unarmed man in a battle of wits. And now, I’ve had three at once! Sorry, Mom. I’ll renew my promise, ignore the Three Amigos, and thereby give them the ignor-ance they so persistently crave and feed upon.
Big Trucker and Morons All, Why didn’t you guys warn me about this coalescing thing? Does that make us anything like the super friends or the power rangers? What one do I get to be? Seriously I do find it odd that Jerry is so lost that he can’t see he is in his/her own corner on this and many other issue’s. The really word awaits you Jerry. All you have to do is step into it. Just be careful that your in possession of your concealed carry permit if you decide to come to this battle if the wits armed.
LOL! We surely don’t need to sit around the Hall of Justice to figure out that Jerry’s kind of looking at these issues all humpback and crooked! Really, he won’t bite until he pulls his head out of the sand(his arse).
Super Friends Activate!
Indeed! Protect us all, like the dude who shot the would-be robbers in Aldi’s in Milwaukee! Shotgun wasn’t loaded, but hey, you never know, right? http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/138685849.html
So, how many Antigo robberies and muggings and hold-ups have you witnessed that you could have stopped if only you had concealed carry at that time? C’mon down, Three Amigos! Tell us your stories of frustrated good intentions, your “if only” testimonies. I, for one, am tired of getting mugged and held-up in Antigo!
Complete this sentence in 2000 words or less:
Concealed carry benefits the citizens of Wisconsin because….
Just list the presumed benefits so we can be convinced to run out and get a permit and buy a gun. The only benefit I can think of is increasing sales for gun manufacturers, and that’s not really compelling enough.
To start with Jerry once again you can not come up with anything that makes an once of sense. The guy that shot the robbers and the shotgun was not even loaded? Who in the heck would ask someone that is committing a crime if there gun is loaded or not? No one in their right mind is going to take the time to find out. If you pick up any weapon and point it at someone then you had better be ready to suffer the consequences of your actions. Maybe the dumb ass should have showed the people in the store that he had an empty shotgun so they would have known not to shoot him when he tried to rob the store, Moron. Your statement is like saying I shot a guy that lunged at me with a knife but after I shot him he said why did you shoot me? I was not going to lung all the way.
Come on Jerry I know you know better. Don’t keep playing dumb with me, it is just not fair because you win every time!
“Complete this sentence in 2000 words or less:
Concealed carry benefits the citizens of Wisconsin because….” you can defend yourself and your loved ones against those that would do you harm, even if they are dumb enough to try to do it with a unloaded shotgun.
@Really…”…you can defend yourself and your loved ones against those that would do you harm,…”
Let’s go with that. How do you determine (measure, analyze) whether your defending yourself and your loved ones has a benefit to the citizens of Wisconsin? For instance, for “protect yourself and your loved ones”, does everyone in the state have to be carrying a concealed weapon? Or is there there some tip-over point where concealed carry has a beneficial effect? And, what is that effect supposed to be?
jerry, i got a brother in law just like you,…i, me, mine,..bigger, better, i’m the man, been there, done that,…blah, blah, blah. Can you spell N I N C O M P O O P in 2000 words or less. get a bjob and do something good with yourself. good lord.
Complete this sentence in 2000 words or less:
Concealed carry benefits the citizens of Wisconsin because……now the criminals won’t be the only ones packiing heat?!
@tradercharlie…Jerry’s a liberal, so your rip will go on deaf ears. He doesn’t know what the word “job” means.
Jerry the Constitution gives each one of us the right to defend ourselves. It does not say that it must benefit everyone in the state or country for that matter. Guess what Jerry? It does not benefit the criminals that are already carrying weapons to use against others while committing a crime. In general though Jerry the fact that crime rates go down when concealed carry is enacted speaks for itself even if you are unable to hear the obvious.
Is there some tip-over point? What a ridiculous question! Just when you think it can not become anymore idiotic?
Just giving concealed-carry supporters a chance to show the basis for their stance…. The reduced-crime statistics are conflicting, as the Wikipedia article on concealed carry concludes, “This empirical back-and-forth may well indicate that the data is too incomplete, ambiguous, and crude to establish the positive or negative effects of conceal-carry on crime.[”
One item caught my attention, though – “Using publicly available media reports, the Violence Policy Center claims that from May 2007 through the end of 2009, concealed carry permit holders in the U.S. have killed at least 117 individuals, including 9 law enforcement officers (excluding cases where individuals were acquitted, but including pending cases). ” So, training may be an issue.