According to court documents, Dale Soumis was charged with
False Swearing on 11/26/08. The actual offense date is
07/23/08. Mr. Soumis entered a plea of not guilty on 12/15/08,
and was released on a signature bond of $500.
Below are the posts that have brought over from another
blog, but, are relative to this post:
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John Jameson Says:
December 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
It’s good to see that the APD finally did something sowrthwhile and arrested Dale Soumis for perjury. With any luck, this will result in his being removed from his job of City Admin. and start Antigo on the track to recovery.
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John Jameson Says:
December 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
^ I apologize for the typos. ^
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antigo Says:
December 18th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
i would hope that they could also charge him with a few others if the rumors r correct. but knowing Uttke he will probably drop the case because hes everyones best friend who is a city employee. and of course no one who actually goes to court here ever seems to get any real time. he will get a slap on the wrist like many others who have walked the halls of the court house and laughed at him behind his back.
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It Burns Says:
December 19th, 2008 at 1:29 am
What the heck are you talking about?!
Dale Soumis arrested??? When? I think you may be confused.
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admin Says:
December 19th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
If you check the WI court site, there is an open case against him with charges of “False Swearing”. A signature bond was set on 12/15/08, so apparently he is out. Langlade County Case Number 2008CM000266. You can find a link for the Court site on the AntigoBuzz main page.
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Kim Says:
December 19th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Nope they aren’t confused it was in thursdays (12/18) paper.
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John Jameson Says:
December 19th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
The worst part is the city’s attorney is representing Mr. Soumis. This seems wrong on several differnet levels. The people of Antigo should demand that he resign A.S.A.P. I do not feel comfortable leaving a criminal at the helm of our city. I wonder if the police cheif still eats breakfast with Dale at Dixie Lunch every morning. If so, he should reconsider associating with known criminals. It might haunt his future political career.
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voiceofreason Says:
December 20th, 2008 at 12:30 am
Criminal? It’s funny that you defended Morse to the death but have already convicted Mr. Soumis. If he is found not guilty, will you take your words back? Presumed innocent until proven guilty…hmmm, where have I heard that before? I seem to remember being accused of slander by Mr. Jameson in a posting on this very thread on July 26th. Hello Kettle, I am the Pot…you are black!
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John Jameson Says:
December 20th, 2008 at 1:12 am
The evidence of Mr. Soumis’ crimes actually do exist in public record. He is wasting the county’s time by pleading ‘not guilty’ to it. Seeing as Mr. Soumis was arrested for a criminal offense, I am in the right calling him a criminal.
If Mr. Morse was arrested for making false statements. I would not argure his criminal status. I wanted to see your supposed evidence against Mr. Morse. The people of Wisconsin will show you the evidence against Mr. Soumis.
I almost forgot, you are the man who made up the lies about a Starbucks franchise(when they do not franchise). Unless you are opening a fake Starbucks franchise next week(I do like their coffee), I have no reason to waste my time on you.
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Fed Up Says:
December 21st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Jameson-dying to know where you get the info you do. “The evidence of Mr. Soumis crimes actually do exist in the public record.” You must know something the judge does not because the case was thrown out of civil court–but being civil case it was not published. If you know of evidence, please produce it because the DA seems to be having a tough time and maybe he could use your help. Innocent until proven guilty except in Antigo it seems.
Antigo-guess you must know something I do by your comment that Uttke is the city employees friend. He successfully prosecuted the last two without prejudice so I think you might be mistaken.
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Fed Up Says:
December 21st, 2008 at 5:18 pm
BTW–voice you will like this. A local business person is contemplating criminal charges against Morse for a still unpaid bill which resulted from his last mayoral campaign. It seems he did not follow the statues in how he played the politics game and the outstanding bill, still not paid stands as evidence of such. I will let you figure out the details as no one ever believes me when I say that the truth as I know it but I am supposed to believe them when they say they are stating the truth. I hope the businessman follows through or at least gets his money due as this is shameful practice in my thinking.
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Fed Up Says:
December 21st, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Jameson-Also–”Seeing as Mr. Soumis was arrested for a criminal offense, I am in the right calling him a criminal” For the record, arrest is not conviction, even in the court of blogs. I am sure that with you helping the DA uncover all this evidence you state is public record you will fight for his conviction based on that evidence as you present it to the judge. Until then, I suggest you not confuse the issue as it is beneath you.
Maybe you will elaborate for everyone who the other person involved in this case is. He has been proven a liar but we won’t talk about that now will we. I see a black pot and kettle brewing.
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antigo Says:
December 21st, 2008 at 9:39 pm
i’m not sure who u r talking about there fed up. the last two as in who? there r a lot of cases that go through the court house. and yes uttke lets them get away with little to no punishment. if u r talking about the alcoholic who ran over an innocent man that should have been closed along time ago, GUILTY! life in prison! and if u r also referring to the man who wanted to kill his wife, well all i can say is everyone talks and i wasnt there so i dont know the truth only a few select people do and it is those who r involved. so i know no more than u do, but i did hear they have your beloved mr. soumis on record as in either a voice recording or stenographer, not sure which one. unlike u i dont let my mouth overload my *SS.
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voiceofreason Says:
December 21st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
MORSE not paying bills from his last mayoral campaign?? Sounds vaguely familiar to me. Then again, the proof wasn’t there, correct Mr. Jameson? Oops! I just wonder if this is the old Clermont bill he hadn’t paid as of his last report or is there yet another? Then again, what’s a little matter of integrity have anything to do with an election? Regardless, he will be buried by Mr. Brandt come election day.
Speaking of election day, I heard someone is running against EDER. Anyone know if MORSE or KAPUSTA will be challenged? It would be great to get both of them out of office! Also, STIMAC could go for a 4-peat in defeat! This will be fun!
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Fed Up Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 am
Antigo-beloved Mr. Soumis no. Waiting to see the evidence, yes. A lot of rumors fly and I am waiting to see the evidence presented by the DA because I know he brings a lot of cases to the docket to keep his job and they are thrown out for lack of evidence. I personally would like to see my tax dollars used to put the murders of the innocent in jail and not used to feather someone’s resume. You and I are not that far apart, I just know that Uttke chases windmills with my tax dollars and I am afraid this is one. The voters put him in so he has a job yes and I just wish he would do it.
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Kim Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 2:48 pm
More than just our tax dollars are being used on Uttke, the city attorney is representing Soumis.
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John Jameson Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Ok, the followoing is loosely paraphrased from a source close to the investigation:
Mr. Soumis was arrested after making false statements about his dealings with the damage done to Mr. Stimac’s business after the demolition of the McMillon Hotel. Apparently, on sworn record, he had claimed to have never sopken to Mr. Stimac about the damage done to his business. However, he is on record 3 monthes earlier speaking with Mr. Stimac about the damgage.
If the infromation from the source I have is correct, the evidence exists in public records.
It is more surprising that the city attorney can defend Mr. Soumis. Is he paying for this legal representation? If he isn’t, why are we paying to defend his false statements? If he is(paying), isn’t it a huge conflict of interests to have the city’s attorney working to represent a city employee? I would like to see the city start looking for a new attorney who would have the ethics to refuse the case, but that is highly unlikely.
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Fed Up Says:
December 22nd, 2008 at 7:12 pm
I will no longer comment as this case is under investigation in the courts and not in this blog. If the case is based on city business, then the city attorney is legally obligated to represent the city and its representative(s). That being said, I will not comment further but please keep talking amongst yourselves.
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voiceofreason Says:
December 23rd, 2008 at 12:14 am
Mr. Jameson has “a source” and we should all believe him! Especially with his past support of public records! Wow, this is ironic!
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John Jameson Says:
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
You are out of your element here voice. I wanted you to provide me a current bill showing an account that was past due. All you had was an old campaign spending report, which was not what I was asking for. How about you run down to that Starbucks Franchise of yours and get me coffee. Good boy!
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voiceofreason Says:
December 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Yes Yes Yes, I am out of my element. How dare I point out the hypocrisy of a kook like you. Obviously I have no place with heavyweight intellectual types such as yourself. How dare I not provide current bills that no one other than MORSE has access to, even though you, your excellency has requested them? How dare I point to public records that prove the bill wasn’t paid ONE YEAR after the campaign and call that proof, even though that is the public record that MORSE HIMSELF provided? How dare I presume Mr. Soumis innocent until proven guilty even though the legal scholar that you are has taken the place of the judge? I definately am out of my element, my apologies to all….oh, and Merry Christmas!
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Ridiculous Says:
December 23rd, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Mr. Monson, I mean, Mr. Jameson…everyone knows you have a personal vendetta against Mr. Soumis, so please stop trying to be an unbiased source. The man is innocent until proven guilty. He should be defended by the city attorney because the case involves city business…nobody would ever work for any city if they didn’t have some protection. If he is proven guilty, then you can spout off, but until then, anyone that believes in that “old fashioned” ideal that you can’t be guilty until it is proven will rightfully reject your rantings.
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John Jameson Says:
December 24th, 2008 at 3:00 am
I am certainly not Monson. Far from it in fact. I just believe that the taxpayers should not suffer for Mr. Soumis’s sins. The city didn’t force him to lie in a sworn hearing. There is obviously evidence of wrong doing here, otherwise he would not have been arrested. I would volunteer to take Mr. Soumis’s job, and if I ever commited perjury, I would sure as hell be willing to hire my own legal help. I know several city employees who don’t believe they would get free legal help if they commited a random, personal misdameanor. I wonder if Mr. Soumis would pay my property taxes in place of paying his retainer fee. It seems that representing the personal wrong doings of city officials would take time away from the duties that the taxpayers pay the city attorney for.
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John Jameson Says:
December 24th, 2008 at 3:03 am
Voice, thank you for admiting that you are unable to get Morse’s personal bills. You did not have the proof you claimed. That is all i needed to hear from you. I still want that cup of sweet Starbucks coffee from that franchise you and buddy were setting up. When where you two opening that imaginary franchise again?
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voiceofreason Says:
December 24th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Oh Mr Jameson, I never claimed to have MORSE’S bills, I claimed that according to his financial reports, that he was required by law to submit, showed that he had an outstanding bill of $800 due to Clermont Printing that still hadn’t been paid ONE YEAR after the close of his campaign while reimbursing himself $300 for the same campaign. Is this illegal, no. Is it deplorable to stiff a local business in the very city you were hoping to represent as mayor, ABSOLUTELY. He is a disgrace to the city. You seem to support him while declaring SOUMIS a criminal. That alone shows your character or lack thereof. But, election day is coming. I am sure that you will be in the minority and thank God for that, because your ilk, the FROWNING FOUR (MORSE, EDER, KAPUSTA, and to a degree CAHAK) will all probably have their political careers ended. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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ridiculous Says:
December 26th, 2008 at 2:11 am
Mr. Jameson, OK you may not be Monson, which was a tongue in cheek comment anyway, but you still didn’t address the issue of innocent until proven guilty. Are you going to respond to that? I’ve known people arrested and charged and totally exonerated in court. If you done any reading, you know that more often then we would like to admit, people can even be found guilty in court and end up later being found truly innocent. All I say here is…the man is no criminal UNTIL he has been found GUILTY in court, and NOT in the court of opinion YOURS or anyone else’s! Are you going to respond to that? Probably not, because you can’t possibly reject one of our most basic rights, even for someone you obviously hate.
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John Jameson Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Ok, he isn’t a criminal, just a man arrested for commiting a criminal offense. How does his legal defense become the responsibilty of the taxpayers? I can see having a city attorney defend police officers in law suits related to their line of work, and having a city attorney to look over contracts makes perfect sense.
I have a feeling that if one of the kids that mows lawns for the city in the summer was arrested for possesion of marijuana that they would not recieve free legal defenese. Unless Mr. Soumis’s job description includes ‘lieing under oath’, I do not see how it is right for him to waste tax dollars on his personal defense.
If he had any charactor, he would resign his postion untill after the criminal investigation is over. Is it right to have him in charge of any city office when he can’t remember what is fact or fiction? He is a disgrace to the city of Antigo. If he is not found guilty in a court of law, then it will be a disgrace to our court system as well.
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ignorant people suck! Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
At a minimum he should be suspended until the case is settled. At least he can’t make any more stupid decisions if he isn’t there. The City will still have to pay him; but they will probably be saving lots of money by not having to pay for some of the dumb ideas that we have to pay an engineering firm tens of thousands of dollars to explore.
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Ridiculous Says:
December 27th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Folks, telling the man he has to resign his position, a disgrace to the city of Antigo, and that if he is not found guilty it will be a disgrace to our court system proves my point.
You do not believe in the principle of innocent until proven guilty. He has been accused, not convicted.
Your comments betray that you don’t like the man, and thus don’t care if there is any evidence or not, you have already found him guilty and think he should be treated that way.
Fortunately, you are not in charge of our justice system.
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voiceofreason Says:
December 28th, 2008 at 2:50 am
Come on Ridiculous, you don’t really think Jameson is rational enough to see your point do you? The man(?) is a kook. He can’t see through his own bias. At least IPS raises legitimate issues. I don’t agree with him in this case but his points are thought out and coherent.
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Fed Up Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Jameson, According to your “source” and what you yourself have loosely paraphrased: Mr. Soumis was arrested after making false statements about his dealings with the damage done to Mr. Stimac’s business after the demolition of the McMillon Hotel. Apparently, on sworn record, he had claimed to have never sopken to Mr. Stimac about the damage done to his business. However, he is on record 3 monthes earlier speaking with Mr. Stimac about the damage.”
The destruction of the McMillon which Mr. Stimac is on recording of begging for repeatedly, was a city project at city expense. This would make all of this city business which entitles Soumis to representation by the city attorney who dealt with the whole process as well. This would negate this being a personal defense as you stated based on what you wrote in your own posts.
My compliments on the hole you are digging for yourself. Its beautiful and fits you very well.
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voiceofreason Says:
January 7th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Hallelujah, MORSE is out of city government come April. EDER and KAPUSTA will probably join him. Thank you to Mr. Hessedall (spelling?) and Ms. Turnbull for running against those two imbeciles. Good luck to both Mr. Brandt and Mr. Cernoch in the mayoral campaign, both seem to be good men. Antigo’s future is brighter already!
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Sherry Says:
January 8th, 2009 at 1:15 am
I agree, things might just be looking up in the city of Antigo.
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Ridiculous Says:
January 8th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Couldn’t agree more Voice!
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voiceofreason Says:
January 19th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Has there been an update in the case against Mr. Soumis? Judging by the silence of Jameson and the rest of the kooks, I would assume that either nothing has been settled or he has been exonerated. If anyone has info, please post.
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admin Says:
January 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
According to the WI Court site, he has a status conference scheduled for 02/02/09. The case is still open.
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